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What do you believe about karma?
Posted on Dec 3rd, 2008
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michaelsits
michaelsits
This is in Response to the Questions and Reflections for December 03, 2008:
I almost passed on this one due to the word believe, it gives the impression that i believe in things as oppossed to expereincing them. I have experienced karma as i have experienced anythihg else like ice cream, tears, naps and holding hands. They are all equally real to me but accpept that i still interprit them through my lens.
When i meet certain folks, i can sense our history and karmic conenctiions. I used to think it was such a cool thing, but then novelty wore off and reality creeped in. i tend to view our "new" realtionship from the perspective that we have some old unresolved issues and we now have the opprotunity to clean and balance our shared pasts.
I have experienced karmic consequences on many different levels. there is the simplistic conscious level of wanting to rid my mind of certain actions that cause me pain or suffering. Then there are the experiences that carry weight in my daily transactions with life and my environment that inlfuence and guide my decisions and actions. I can feel them tug at my heart and belly when paying attention. Another level i experience karmic consequences on those actions that have come into this life with me, my life obligations and comitments. these are not intllectual not emotional, they go much deeper and typically can be experienced when in a slowed brain rhtyhm.
I try not to pay any mind to what the intllect says about karma or any other spiritual principle that influences my life. I reflected briefly on the questions about good begets good and do bad things happen to innocent people? I truly do not think i have ever met an innocent person to know if they could be effected by negative consequences. I diid not know innocence was possible. How can a human or any creature go a lifetime without a negative/harmful thought or action? Seems somewhat niave, if not blind.
Good begets good. Humm. That implies there is a defined good and bad, and those laws of good and bad are Universal without cultural or chronological relevence, again, seems niave and somewhat blind. In one culture hitting a child is illegal and in another it is illegal not to hit a child. In one culture homosexuality is illegal, in another it is a rite of passage. in one culture, incest is considered gross and physcially damaging to childbirth, where in the next a man cannot reach manhood or get married without it.
Ghandi asked himself before choosing to enter the Boer War if he was causing more harm by not helping poeple from getting harmed than if he sat and prayed for peace. What is good and bad is so specific to the situation and sprirtual well-being and intention of the person choosing the action. i struggle with words like good and bad, they create human and cultural guidelines that imply that one size fits all, another niave and blind approach to laws, social, perosnal and spiritual interactions and cosnsequences.
i wish i was inspired to really dig into this but not there at the moment to go as deeply as i would like. How do you experience karma?
When i meet certain folks, i can sense our history and karmic conenctiions. I used to think it was such a cool thing, but then novelty wore off and reality creeped in. i tend to view our "new" realtionship from the perspective that we have some old unresolved issues and we now have the opprotunity to clean and balance our shared pasts.
I have experienced karmic consequences on many different levels. there is the simplistic conscious level of wanting to rid my mind of certain actions that cause me pain or suffering. Then there are the experiences that carry weight in my daily transactions with life and my environment that inlfuence and guide my decisions and actions. I can feel them tug at my heart and belly when paying attention. Another level i experience karmic consequences on those actions that have come into this life with me, my life obligations and comitments. these are not intllectual not emotional, they go much deeper and typically can be experienced when in a slowed brain rhtyhm.
I try not to pay any mind to what the intllect says about karma or any other spiritual principle that influences my life. I reflected briefly on the questions about good begets good and do bad things happen to innocent people? I truly do not think i have ever met an innocent person to know if they could be effected by negative consequences. I diid not know innocence was possible. How can a human or any creature go a lifetime without a negative/harmful thought or action? Seems somewhat niave, if not blind.
Good begets good. Humm. That implies there is a defined good and bad, and those laws of good and bad are Universal without cultural or chronological relevence, again, seems niave and somewhat blind. In one culture hitting a child is illegal and in another it is illegal not to hit a child. In one culture homosexuality is illegal, in another it is a rite of passage. in one culture, incest is considered gross and physcially damaging to childbirth, where in the next a man cannot reach manhood or get married without it.
Ghandi asked himself before choosing to enter the Boer War if he was causing more harm by not helping poeple from getting harmed than if he sat and prayed for peace. What is good and bad is so specific to the situation and sprirtual well-being and intention of the person choosing the action. i struggle with words like good and bad, they create human and cultural guidelines that imply that one size fits all, another niave and blind approach to laws, social, perosnal and spiritual interactions and cosnsequences.
i wish i was inspired to really dig into this but not there at the moment to go as deeply as i would like. How do you experience karma?
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Hi Michael, I hadn't come by for a while to read yr blogs and now when I do it is again such a joy.
Mostly people speak about karma in a rather dogmatic way as they've learned through some religious philosophy, or what they think they might have experienced through past life regression or so.
It's easy to fall into the trap of wanting to categorize life (needly ordered preferable , lol!) so our human minds can understand.
It's so refreshing to me how you speak about the different levels and layers you experience karma, the mind is such a phenomena and life so complex and we really know so little about it.
How do I experience karma? In terms of other lives, eventhough I've had deep felt experiences that let me know that I've had connections before, I really don't investigate to much energy towards that subject. My everyday here and now keeps me busy and puzzled enough! On that level I experience karma in the sense that I try to unravel old imprints and patterns that don't serve me anymore and try to move into greater portals of thought, action and love. Sometimes that flows easy and other times I struggle.
Thanks,
love,
Lucienne
Lucienne, good to see you again!
Thanks fro sharing your perspective and experiences.
Alluvja wiith her beautiful new photo wrote:
“On that level I experience karma in the sense that I try to unravel old imprints and patterns that don't serve me anymore and try to move into greater portals of thought, action and love. Sometimes that flows easy and other times I struggle.”
My experiences are very similar, maybe i dive a little further into the explorations, but end up in the same place, a pratical application of the inner sense to go forward and grow.
Peace
michael