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Women always like fake men

Posted on Nov 23rd, 2008 by michaelsits : in spite of myself michaelsits
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A male friend wrote ths recently in a spiritual discussion online. i wanted to share his thoughts, and mine that were facilittated by his. I think they make for good conversation.

"okay, just a quickie...why is it that women like fake guys so much? On a cruise ship you need to make sure the fake guys are evenly distributed, or the ship will list to whichever side has more of them, from all the women rushing over. By fake I mean guys who wear cologne and act like they know the names of colors and stuff. They're so fake they don't even pretend to not care what women think."

i have avoided responding to the sharing of your frustrations for a few days now.  As another male, i share your frustration, it irks me.  As does women falling for the guy who treats them the worst.  But it has pushed some buttons of mine this sharing of yours.  I wanted to let it settle a bit before writing and today while hiking up Tang San Mountain, it came up again for reflection.  This is what evolved:

As frustrated as i am about women falling for fake men, i am even more frustrated that we men do so with women to an even further degree.  We just don't call it fake since socially women are programmed to "highlight" whatever they choose and we leap to the "new her".  We don't call bras fake.  We don't call hair coloring, even for the 50+ crowd fake (which i am on the verge of entering). We don't call women "working out" fake beacsue they say they are doing it to keep healthy in between cigarettes, caffeine, choclate bars and wine.  We do not call women who smell fragrant fake beacsue that is what women do right?  We do not call woomen fake for shaving the underarms or legs to rid themselves of all conenction to their mamal selves beacsue that is what women do.  i am not criticizing women, at least not consciously.  I am speaking to the fact that we, or at least me and most men, will have our eyes caught by the women who has put effort into her appearance throught diet, cosmetics, hair style and color, body type, bras that lift and separate, snug clothes, young looking skin, ect, ect. Christ, many women won't eat or burp or go to the bathroom when they first meet a guy, forget about being themselves or lettiing their true body odor scent be allowed to be smelled.  I think we are incredibly more guilty of what you shared about than they can ever be, if for no other reason they have more available ways to become fake than us.  I wish i was not a victim to the lure of fakeness in attraction but i am.  I notice the young sweet thing before the amazing, wise and loving women who is still younger than me. I wish i could say otherwise, especially since there are a slew of amaziing women on gaia that may be offended or hurt by what i am sharing.

So what is my point? My point is that we are socially programmed  to be attracted to certaiin things and the programming is deep-seated.  Not always conscious.

Side note.  when i was in japan back in september, a certian social phenomonom caught my attention.  there were many very attractive women with yellow hair.  It was not blonde, it was bleached yellow.  Kind of like David Lee Roth in the eighties.  Although very intersting in its own right, what caught my social curiosity even greater was the amount of men who also had bleached their hair yellow.  Now, yellow haired men ALWAYS had an attractive yellow haired women with them, always.  there were yellow haired women that did not have a man with them but the men aways had a woman and she always was a bleached hair girl.  Somehow, i think this applies.  Maybe something about yoking or even equal yoking.

OK, done with my reflection now.  If anyone is offended, please accept my apology up front. i did not intend to disrespect anyone.  Just writing.

Peace, love and hypocracy,
michael: Hypocrite 

 

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Nicole : wakingdreamer
about 6 hours later
Nicole said

it's good to be honest, my friend michael. why be so hard on yourself for how you were programmed? be at peace….

Sylvia : loving Spirit
about 12 hours later
Sylvia said

Hi, Michael - interesting blog.  One aspect of the internet that usually attracts me is getting to know peoples' insides before I meet their outsides - and vice versa.  My former significant other Brad and I had gotten to know each other pretty well before we ever even exchanged pictures.  And yet one of the things I struggled with in our relationship was a sense that he found me much more attractive than I found him, physically.  I loved who he was (and his spirit now that he has died) - but I didn't feel an ongoing “zing” towards him.  I've had various female friends tell me that's not unusual between men and women.  I don't know if I agree, but I don't have a lot of basis for comparison in my own life since he was my first long term intimate relationship.  One thing I wonder about is if part of the issue was self-care.  We dressed similarly - in casual clothes - and I don't wear make-up or perfume.  But I have come to feel confident enough about myself to try to pick colors that look good on me, make sure my hair is tidy, and my sense of humor sometimes peeks out in choices of clothing, etc - and that spark of self love was not something I connected with in him.


I'm wistful about it - and sometimes I wonder how/if it could have been different even as I know it was as it was, and is as it is.


One question I would have to the guy you were dialoguing with - any chance he's looking in the wrong place or the wrong way for women?


Just a thought -



peace and blessings -


Sylvia

michaelsits : in spite of myself
about 22 hours later
michaelsits said

Thanks nicole fro continuing to support me.  I am sure you are corect about me being to hard on myself.

Nice reflection to share sylvia.  I think many women settle fro what your friends told you but i do not think that it is true fro most women.  We all make compromises in who pick i think.  Men and women typically choose different areas to compromise, men rarely compromise physical attraction, women compromise often compatiability/communication hoping 'he will get better at it'.  Hoping someone changes/grows to fit our needs is always a precarious place to stand at best.

I personally have had mixed sucess with makign frinds with folks befoer seeing them in person.  Soemtimes i have been greatly disappointed wiht how different they/we interact and connect when able to hide in computerland.  Most folks can be nice when they have nobody in front of them and time to word things to sound good.  Real life is not as easy to pretend or manipulate, thankfully. 

A few years back i dated a woman who at first i was very atracted to on many levels.  As we dated, i lost interst in her ophysically and felt lost.  We had not gotten physically intimate yet, so i stalled waiting fro things to work themselves out.  they didn't and i stopped dating her as not to hurt her.  We became very good friends.

I do not know enough about my friend whoi write what he wrote to know where or who he is referencing.  I took it at face value and let myeself reflect on it from there, for me, not him.  he facilitated me thinking about some stuff that needed a deeper look. nicole and i have had some conversations abiout this subject before.  And sure we will again!

Peace and love,
michael

Nicole : wakingdreamer
1 day later
Nicole said

I'm sure we will have more conversations about it too, Michael! I missed your blogs, good to see you writing them again. After Friday, I'll be out of touch for a while, in Japan I don't expect to have much internet. peace, joy and love

michaelsits : in spite of myself
1 day later
michaelsits said

Good to be doing so as well.  I have been focusing on completing nanowrimo this month, what an experience!  I passed 50,000 words yesterday but i still have much to go to complete the story.  At least now i feel like i can continue to work on that story and do some writing of non-fciton, whatever that means too. i miss it and our conversations nicole 

as a side note, it ihas been interesting diving into fiction.  As you know, i have not even written fifteen pages of fiction in my life. I have grown ot appreciate fiction and see it in a different light.  Maybe i will even read some fiction…

Japan, wow.  i will not be back there for a while yet, maybe taiwan or china around the holidays though,or further south if i can find a cheap enough flight.  I look roward to hearing your impression of japan.

Peace
michael

Albert  : ~
1 day later
Albert said

M;ichael..lol….the opposite is true too.

You might be interested in the case of Susanne Klatten, prpbably richest woman in Germany. And the Blackmail Thing the media are reporting about for weeks now.

Susanne Klatten

A story which fits to life and reveals lots.):) to laugh too.):)

michaelsits : in spite of myself
1 day later
michaelsits said

Thanks albert. I checked out the link and the story, very intersting and funny in an uncomfortable way.  It is telling of something.  Reminds me of that movie with Eddie Murphy and Arsisio Hall, Coming to America.  Eddie murphy is a prince and comes to america to find his 'queen' in Queens. NYC not knowing what Queens is lie.  he works as a janitor to not attrract a mwoman for his moenya nd fortune.  Funny but great social commentary.

Yes, it is definitley true both wayspeace, michael

Nicole : wakingdreamer
1 day later
Nicole said

Glad you have enjoyed nanowrimo, Michael. I guess I will have to blog about Japan when I get back home! It's been a long time since I've blogged…

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